WestonSalop Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Somewhat surprised that my PW colleagues haven't expressed their views on this one! I wonder what would have happened if they'd organised this when Parliament was sitting, or on the state opening of parliament or trooping the colour? Somehow I suspect the police would have been somewhat more forceful than they have been so far. But it seems that because government nor the royal family are not inconvenienced - just hundreds of thousands of plebs - nothing is going to happen to rid the streets of these loonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Walker570 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Be interesting to see what the birthrate of this bunch is. We are polluting the world with human beings first and foremost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) Wonder if the young toff knows how much extra pollution the little darlings cause with so much traffic at a stanstill? Edited April 17, 2019 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Was being talked at by someone a couple of weeks ago about how we had to reduce the amount on co2 in the atmosphere. When I asked what level of co2 we should be aiming for they said with great authority we need to reduce it by 75%. You should have see the look of shock on their face when I told them that at a level of around 100 ppm all plants would be dead so they should go and check their figures and may be rethink their ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 All those daft plonkers who glued them selves to trucks and bridges etc . The police should have just walked up to them said nothing and turned a cold hose pipe on them .and watched . Im pretty sure after 15 mins the key to the pad lock or the glue solvent would have come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Saw a picture of one protester being carried away by plod, he was certainly doing his bit for the environment judging by his dirty bare feet that had not seen soap and water for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonSalop Posted April 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 What I just don't get is why the police haven't been more forceful. These "people" are all committing criminal offences. Now, my politics are a long way from the far right but its my guess that if a far-right group had caused this amount of disruption, the baton charges would have started long before now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Sky news..... What a presenter. Is it always like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, bluesj said: Was being talked at by someone a couple of weeks ago about how we had to reduce the amount on co2 in the atmosphere. When I asked what level of co2 we should be aiming for they said with great authority we need to reduce it by 75%. You should have see the look of shock on their face when I told them that at a level of around 100 ppm all plants would be dead so they should go and check their figures and may be rethink their ideas As someone once said: "Being a climate hysteric means never having to say sorry" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) I think that what they are saying is 99% accurate but its the way they are going about it thats the problem. We have been spewing out vast amounts of Co2 since the industrial revolution and it was not a problem because there were few industrialised countries doing it, gradually that amount of Co2 has increased, because more and more countries are either producing more Co2 themselves or are cutting down more and more trees that are converting Co2 into oxygen. We are getting very near to a point of no return. More and more glaciers are melting, more and more ice sheets are melting in the Arctic and Antarctic. The amount of plastic that is ending up in the sea is incredible, we have been producing plastic for well over 50 years but its only in the last year or so that anyone has seemed to notice how much is ending up in the sea. I think that my granddaughters children will live in a very different world that we have seen and i do not think it will be a better world. Have a quick look here. https://www.google.com/search?q=plastic+pollution&rlz=1C1GGRV_enGB758GB758&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjojsC4-9fhAhU6RxUIHYcACtsQ_AUIDigB Edited April 17, 2019 by peck deerf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 They should go to the worlds biggest polluters and try bring their city centres to a halt . Love to see how they get on in shanghai or bejing 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, Ultrastu said: They should go to the worlds biggest polluters and try bring their city centres to a halt . Love to see how they get on in shanghai or bejing 🤣 We are amongst the Worlds biggest polluters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Surprised the Brexit campaigners haven’t taken such action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, peck said: I think that what they are saying is 99% accurate but its the way they are going about it thats the problem. We have been spewing out vast amounts of Co2 since the industrial revolution and it was not a problem because there were few industrialised countries doing it, gradually that amount of Co2 has increased, because more and more countries are either producing more Co2 themselves or are cutting down more and more trees that are converting Co2 into oxygen. We are getting very near to a point of no return. More and more glaciers are melting, more and more ice sheets are melting in the Arctic and Antarctic. The amount of plastic that is ending up in the sea is incredible, we have been producing plastic for well over 50 years but its only in the last year or so that anyone has seemed to notice how much is ending up in the sea. I think that my granddaughters children will live in a very different world that we have seen and i do not think it will be a better world. ....and you see it chucked in all the hedgerows down our lanes.. by whom? Human beings of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydave Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, WestonSalop said: What I just don't get is why the police haven't been more forceful. These "people" are all committing criminal offences. Now, my politics are a long way from the far right but its my guess that if a far-right group had caused this amount of disruption, the baton charges would have started long before now. So far, non violence is their thing - i've never seen anything like it where so many people are keeping to one pattern of behaviour . Also it seems that getting arrested is part of the plan. They got about 400 people to agree to be arrested before this all started - the aim being that if 4000 get arrested then the system will start to wobble and with a warm bank holiday forecast it might just happen. It all depends on whether the police can keep arresting them quickly enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 I see Packham has involved himself! He was there being interviewed on TV......Mr rentaquote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Quote We are amongst the Worlds biggest polluters. We are in 15th place and trivial compared to China, India, Russia, Japan and the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Gordon R said: We are in 15th place and trivial compared to China, India, Russia, Japan and the USA. Sorry but when you say trivial. Thats the attitude people have! "oh its not us its the 14 above us that are causing the problem". I have got news for you, we are a big part of the problem. and if we dont do our part to reduce global warming why should anyone else bother. We were the start of the problem when the industrial revolution happened. Queen Victoria insisted on having the blinds pulled down on the royal train when she travelled through the black country because of the smoke caused by coal fires fuelling the industrial revolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 some did glue themselves to corbyns house which seems a sad and futile gesture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 I read a stat a few years ago that UK and Oz could turn back the clock to stone age times is almost no co2 emissions, and within 2 years India and China would off filled the gap. The other big problem u have is most green energies are just 1 great big scam and only visible because of the massive amounts off subsidies paid to prop the technology up.. Really the only way forward is nuclear but these idiots won't want to hear that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, peck said: We were the start of the problem when the industrial revolution happened. Queen Victoria insisted on having the blinds pulled down on the royal train when she travelled through the black country because of the smoke caused by coal fires fuelling the industrial revolution. Yes and South Wales was the same, even the rivers ran black, but its not like that now, and neither is the black country. Humans produce 50 times more CO2 than all the vehicles in the world just by breathing. To reduce CO2 and all the other problems we need to reduce the human population which has quadrupled in my lifetime. Any suggestions on how we go about that would be very interesting because that is the issue no politician would even dare to mention. I did notice one of these little rich kid spokespersons turned the subject round to Veganism very quickly. Well my, my,, that's a surprise Edited April 17, 2019 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 The stats are quite illuminating. They really should go to China who produce more than most of the rest combined. I suspect the trains would keep calling at stations or the cops wouldn't be so nice when removing them which probably has something to do with their choice of venue. https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/each-countrys-share-of-co2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GingerCat said: The stats are quite illuminating. They really should go to China who produce more than most of the rest combined. I suspect the trains would keep calling at stations or the cops wouldn't be so nice when removing them which probably has something to do with their choice of venue. https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/each-countrys-share-of-co2.html Because we export our pollution, through consumption, to China. We should be looking to reduce consumption in the UK to tackle pollution in China. It's these global issues that are best tackled by global blocks like the EU. We can ask them what our plan will be for when we leave. Edited April 17, 2019 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 It will be their plan we we leave. We will have our own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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