Labour at it again.

[Gunman]

Another drive by shooting in London has been reported . A 7 year old girl has been seriously injured . I no of no other details as to who was shot or by whom . 

But Starmer is already on the Labour band wagon shouting for tighter gun controls .He is as most idiots do ,assume  that the shooter was /is a legal gun owner and that all gun owners are nothing more than criminals who drive around randomly shooting .

This is a man who can not identify a woman , yet he can without any evidence call for more restrictions on gun ownership . I'll say no more .

 

[armsid]

From the reports the people killed were Columbian British (and i am not racist) this is the type of culture that is growing shoot people who cross you and to hell if others get caught in crossfire The gunman could have been a hitman for a cartel we will never be told the truth but all legal gun owners will be in the crosshairs

[Vince Green]

It happened in Euston, to the north side of Euston Rd are some very rough and dodgy estates

[Newbie to this]

Heard on the radio, the wounds were inflicted by shotgun pellets.

[Scully]

Starmer should ( and probably does ) know better, but it’s just yet another opportunity to have a pop at the government, so that’s what he’s done. 

[JohnfromUK]

4 minutes ago, Scully said:

Starmer should ( and probably does ) know better, but it’s just yet another opportunity to have a pop at the government, so that’s what he’s done. 

This - to which I would add that he will see votes in it as generally being anti gun ownership and shooting in general tends to be more popular with the left leaning potential Labour voters.

[manthing]

3 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

This - to which I would add that he will see votes in it as generally being anti gun ownership and shooting in general tends to be more popular with the left leaning potential Labour voters.

At yet London and most of the other large cities where a lot of this sort of thing happens, are mainly labour controlled areas.

Strange init.

[Yellow Bear]

2 minutes ago, manthing said:

At yet London and most of the other large cities where a lot of this sort of thing happens, are mainly labour controlled areas.

Strange init.

Nah, it's mainly the voters that there previous PM brought in with his open door policies who do not believe the laws in this country apply to them.

[JohnfromUK]

38 minutes ago, manthing said:

London and most of the other large cities where a lot of this sort of thing happens, are mainly labour controlled areas.

True, but the tightening of gun laws up to and including removal of private gun ownership/custody is a 'national government matter.

You could also argue that the areas within .....

40 minutes ago, manthing said:

London and most of the other large cities where a lot of this sort of thing happens, are mainly labour controlled areas.

are usually relatively 'deprived' areas which would tend to have high crime. 

Whatever the reasons (and wishing to banish all sporting shooting is one quite unrelated, but still much wanted by the left) - the Labour left will take any measure that can against any form of legalised gun ownership.

[12gauge82]

1 hour ago, Scully said:

Starmer should ( and probably does ) know better, but it’s just yet another opportunity to have a pop at the government, so that’s what he’s done. 

Spot on as usual mate. 

[henry d]

6 hours ago, armsid said:

From the reports the people killed were Columbian British (and i am not racist) this is the type of culture that is growing shoot people who cross you and to hell if others get caught in crossfire The gunman could have been a hitman for a cartel we will never be told the truth but all legal gun owners will be in the crosshairs

Whisky Tango Foxtrot are you going on about? The people shot are Colombian British, and you need to say you are not racist immediately? Then you say that this type of culture (the people shot) don't care about who gets shot and you are more worried about how it impacts legal gun owners 🤔 

Milk of human kindness. 

[PeterHenry]

7 hours ago, Gunman said:

Another drive by shooting in London has been reported . A 7 year old girl has been seriously injured . I no of no other details as to who was shot or by whom . 

But Starmer is already on the Labour band wagon shouting for tighter gun controls .He is as most idiots do ,assume  that the shooter was /is a legal gun owner and that all gun owners are nothing more than criminals who drive around randomly shooting .

This is a man who can not identify a woman , yet he can without any evidence call for more restrictions on gun ownership . I'll say no more .

 

Do you have a link? I've just had a quick Google and couldn't find anything - but that might just be because its Sunday evening post dinner...

[Gordon R]

Quote

this is the type of culture that is growing shoot people who cross you and to hell if others get caught in crossfire 

I am unclear as to why anyone would call that comment racist. The reports suggest it was a revenge shooting at a memorial service linked to drug dealing. It is the culture of gangland shooting, drugs etc that I think armsid is referring to.

[old man]

17 hours ago, Gunman said:

Another drive by shooting in London has been reported . A 7 year old girl has been seriously injured . I no of no other details as to who was shot or by whom . 

But Starmer is already on the Labour band wagon shouting for tighter gun controls .He is as most idiots do ,assume  that the shooter was /is a legal gun owner and that all gun owners are nothing more than criminals who drive around randomly shooting .

This is a man who can not identify a woman , yet he can without any evidence call for more restrictions on gun ownership . I'll say no more .

 

Aweful for those involved.

It's sadly just seemingly a reflection of overall UK policy of removing slowly all gun ownership so that the only ones around are held by criminals and the state organs? It's easier, cheaper and safer politically to go for known legal owners than chase criminals maybe? Just how it is now?

16 hours ago, Yellow Bear said:

Nah, it's mainly the voters that there previous PM brought in with his open door policies who do not believe the laws in this country apply to them.

Indeed.

[Vince Green]

It raises the question why we have a 'Columbian Community '  living in London in the first place. 

It's not somewhere that we have any historic or political ties with

[Dave-G]

As long as the liberal left rally against border control, guns will keep coming. Albania has very easy access to guns.

[PeterHenry]

19 hours ago, Gunman said:

Another drive by shooting in London has been reported . A 7 year old girl has been seriously injured . I no of no other details as to who was shot or by whom . 

But Starmer is already on the Labour band wagon shouting for tighter gun controls .He is as most idiots do ,assume  that the shooter was /is a legal gun owner and that all gun owners are nothing more than criminals who drive around randomly shooting .

This is a man who can not identify a woman , yet he can without any evidence call for more restrictions on gun ownership . I'll say no more .

 

 

12 hours ago, PeterHenry said:

Do you have a link? I've just had a quick Google and couldn't find anything - but that might just be because its Sunday evening post dinner...

 Found it - 

Starmer calls for gun ownership rules to be tightened following Euston shooting

And this is what Keir Starmer told LBC about wanting to see gun ownership laws tightened. He was speaking in response to a question about the Euston shooting at the weekend. He said:

We’ve had these incidents from time to time with guns.

And every time there is, there’s evidence, which I am concerned about, that people have access to guns that they shouldn’t have access to.

Now, if it’s illegal access, obviously, that’s a pure matter of the criminal law.

But other people, where better checks should be taken over circulation of guns. So I think that we need to look again as to whether those laws are strong enough …

There are many illegally-owned guns out there and there are legally-owned guns, which I don’t think should be in the hands of the people who are legally owning them.

Asked for evidence to justify this, Sunak cited the outcome of a review carried out after the mass shooting in Plymouth, where five people were killed in 2021 by a man using a legally-owned gun.

Asked if he wanted gun ownership laws “made even tougher”, Starmer replied yes.

But he stressed that he did not want to see gun ownership outlawed completely. Farmers needed guns, he said, and he was not opposed to gun clubs. But gun ownership should be “subject to tighter control”.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Well done P.H.

What an absolute TW*T Starmer is.

[Rim Fire]

arrested on suspicion of attempted murder over London church shooting

Arrest linked to drive-by attack outside Euston church that left seven-year-old girl critically injured

 

Police at the scene of the shooting outside St Aloysius Roman Catholic church in Euston, north London. Photograph: Yui Mok/PA

 

Harry Taylor and agencies

Mon 16 Jan 2023 07.58 GMT

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A 22-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a drive-by shooting outside a church in London that left a seven-year-old girl with life-threatening injuries.

It is the first arrest linked to the shooting outside St Aloysius church near Euston station on Saturday.

 

Six people, four women and two children who had been attending a memorial service for a woman and her mother, were injured in the attack.

A 22-year-old man was arrested on Sunday after a car was stopped in Cricklewood Lane in Barnet, north London. He has been taken into custody for questioning.

Police said shotgun pellets were fired from a black Toyota C-HR at about 1.30pm on Saturday before it drove off. Scotland Yard issued a plea to anyone who may have seen the car in the area on Saturday to come forward with information.

The service being held at the church in the Somers Town area of Camden was for Fresia Calderon, 50, and her daughter Sara Sanchez, 20. Both had died within weeks of each other at the end of 2022.

Calderon had returned from Colombia in November and died from a blood clot after landing at Heathrow. Her daughter died three weeks later from terminal leukemia.

Mourners had reportedly left the church to release white doves on Saturday when the incident happened.

The seven-year-old girl, taken to hospital after the shooting, is in a serious but stable condition.

A 48-year-old woman was left with potentially life-changing injuries after the shooting, and three other women, aged 21, 41 and 54, were taken to hospital where their condition is deemed to be non life-threatening.

A 12-year-old girl who sustained a leg injury is expected to make a full recovery.

The shots sent mourners running and screaming, with many of them sheltering inside the church, witnesses said. Footage posted on social media showed chaotic scenes after the shooting began.

One resident of an estate across the road from the church, who did not want to be named, said: “I heard the gunshots. I was having a quiet day on my balcony and I heard this almighty bang and I thought this was not normal, and the next minute everyone was screaming and shouting.”

 

[PeterHenry]

49 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Well done P.H.

What an absolute TW*T Starmer is.

👍

It's very carefully worded - if it's read line by line (and taking into account the context of what happened in Plymouth) - there's very little that can reasonably be disagreed with. However, as always, it's the unspoken bits / mood music, that's cause for concern.

It might be a case of Sir Keir wanting to sound tough / appeal to his base. It will be interesting if any mention of its made in the next Labour manifesto.

Edited January 16, 2023 by PeterHenry
*Plymouth

[Kojak_79]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/16/starmer-calls-for-shotgun-ownership-rethink-following-euston-shooting

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Already being discussed here;

 

[mossy835]

all there after is votes, well he wont get mine.

[Rewulf]

6 hours ago, PeterHenry said:

We’ve had these incidents from time to time with guns.  Nearly every day in London Kier 

And every time there is, there’s evidence, which I am concerned about, that people have access to guns that they shouldn’t have access to. You dont say !! 

Now, if it’s illegal access, obviously, that’s a pure matter of the criminal law. Im in awe of your intellect Kier, absolute genius level.

But other people, where better checks should be taken over circulation of guns. So I think that we need to look again as to whether those laws are strong enough … Lets check on the police dealing with it , are they mentally strong enough to not give a violent , steroid addled offender on anger management , HIS guns back ?

There are many illegally-owned guns out there and there are legally-owned guns, which I don’t think should be in the hands of the people who are legally owning them.

Say what ? That doesnt even make sense , people who legally own guns shouldnt have them ? 

 

[old man]

1 minute ago, Rewulf said:

 

Just illustrates the success of the Public Prosecution Service under his guidance?