mattyg1086 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Was out on my local shoot today, some weeks I beat others I pick up with my spaniel. Got chatting to the game keeper who has started beating on another shoot who shoot 100s of birds each shoot day and along with a couple of shoots nearby have invested in an incinerator. Most of the guns won't take a bird so they burn them, I was horrified and said that that should be a crime and it does no end of damage to our sport if we are to try and portrait a good image to the public. I hate seeing the guns at the end of the day just walk away empty handed why shoot a bird if your not going to take any home it seems they are just there for the killing and it just doesn't sit right with me. Has anyone on here experienced similar? Maybe we could give them to a charity or something if they are not used at the end of a day that would be good PR Edited November 18, 2017 by mattyg1086 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 The absolute least they can do is give them away and I refuse to believe local butchers can't be found to take them. A friend of mine shoots ducks this time of year and he kindly dropped me 3 brace of mallard and a brace of wigeon, free top notch food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moor man Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Totally agree, personally I think its morally wrong to shoot and take nothing to eat. We shot today and all birds were taken home. Beaters get first choice (as we don't reward them) guns took the rest. I don't understand why we have families going to food banks when we have good fresh food going begging, makes me mad! Rant over....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Some of the guns on my syndicate don't take them, so I take lots and breast them out for my freezer. Oh, and for friends who are a bit squeamish but want to try pheasant. if I didn't eat what I shoot, I wouldn't bother shooting game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miki Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Seadog1408 said: if I didn't eat what I shoot, I wouldn't bother shooting game. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty1980 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Completely agree, shoot to eat. In my opinion guns who refuses to take home game should not be asked back. The amount of effort that goes into rearing these birds is huge. Such a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 It' astonishing really. My local butcher sells them for £7.50 each oven ready. It's walking distance to the nearest shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 It’s big business. Suggesting a gun is asked not to return if he/she refuses to take birds just isn’t feasible and a bit naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 As game dealers are now wanting payment to take birds, disposal is now a cost issue to commercial shoots, whilst less than ideal, i suspect more and more will go down that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Someone on fb was sell at £1 a brace, and they got loads of **** for their effort. I don't eat every thing I shoot! Don't really fancy rat pie of fox curry! but the 2 pheasants I got this morning are in the oven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) I'd love a brace but can' find any near me. Since our little syndicate folded I miss eating pheasant. Ours were always taken by the guns and beaters. Edited November 18, 2017 by wisdom Spelling mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 It’s gone on for years and will carry on , just the same as some pigeon shooters sling there birds in the dyke or under a hedge at the end of the day. Some of the big game shoots burn / throw away hundreds of birds hoping thE the public won’t find out about it. However ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 What an appalling waste, I would love to fill a freezer with Pheasant and Pigeon as we dont have them here. When I asked on here the last time this subject was raised, no one replied ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 All shoots have some wastage as some just are not fit to eat due to damage. The good ones should be put into the food chain even as dog food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 One of the problems is there are very few real eating establishments these days with real chefs. Buy ready prepared/frozen pop in the micro wave instant meal, doesn't take a whole lot of training. See Brakes vans almost every day around here delivery these ready to go meals. One or two enlightened shoots are starting to oven prepare themselves both for guns and to sell to local outlets, very successfully. I will always ask if there are any damaged birds as I can recycle those into game pies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 59 minutes ago, Scotty1980 said: Completely agree, shoot to eat. In my opinion guns who refuses to take home game should not be asked back. The amount of effort that goes into rearing these birds is huge. Such a shame. totally agree. It is very rude not to take at least one brace. It only goes to show that there is a section of townie shooters that do not understand etiquette. 46 minutes ago, Scully said: It’s big business. Suggesting a gun is asked not to return if he/she refuses to take birds just isn’t feasible and a bit naive. dont agree, its not naive its etiquette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycooker Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I picked up today as I am a chef in my village pub I was told to take 10 brace of partridge and20 brace of pheasants and a haunch of venison for the next shoot stew . To say I don’t buy a drink for a fortnight got a few in the wood then it happens again wooohooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I’ll take as many pheasants, partridge, duck etc from anyone who shoots in or near Shropshire, as many as they want to give away! Sod burning or dumping them. And I’m even happy to come and collect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Can anyone name another industry where the end product of a considerable amount of effort and investment has so little value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 You' think all these healthy eaters would be chomping at the bit for some very lean ethically reared free range food. Personally I take as many as I can get my hands on (which isn't very many this year) and breast/ leg them and use in curries/pies/stews and whatever else I fancy. Lovely meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 57 minutes ago, Scotty1980 said: Completely agree, shoot to eat. In my opinion guns who refuses to take home game should not be asked back. The amount of effort that goes into rearing these birds is huge. Such a shame. The guns have done there bit in maintaining the shoot by paying for the privilege to be there shooting x number of game , at the end of the day they are offered a brace , it is entirely up to them if they want a brace or if they don't , if all the guns up and down the country were not asked back because they said no to a brace of birds , I am afraid a lot of commercial shoots would no longer exist , you cannot blame the paying guns for the mass of unwanted game that is currently available in the country at the moment , ....... or can you ? , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 While I agree with most of wot has been said, I also don't think it does much good widely publising it. I'm not going to say we should bury our heads in the sand, but constantly washing our laundry in public does not do shooting much favours either. Its all very well moaning to mates but when u start putting it online its there for the whole world to see forever I've been around commercial shooting for decades now on some pretty big shoots and have heard odd rumors over the years but never ever believed them, in the past. Althou I must admit i could see the potential for it now with game dealers charging or refusing to take them in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I have shot at loads of estates where I haven’t even been asked if I’d like a brace, I’m always gutted when they don’t ask as I love preparing game! This season at least 50% of the time I haven’t been asked if I’d like any! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, JDog said: Can anyone name another industry where the end product of a considerable amount of effort and investment has so little value? British Leyland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, johnnytheboy said: I have shot at loads of estates where I haven’t even been asked if I’d like a brace, I’m always gutted when they don’t ask as I love preparing game! This season at least 50% of the time I haven’t been asked if I’d like any! They probably assume u don't as most won't. I bet there is not a keeper out there who would not gave u a few brace esp if u have just taken a day. Most keepers would be quite chuft u wanted them, just ask next time I bet he will ask how many u want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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