Ricko Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Other media is calling for the ban on air rifles but in the news report below it looks like shot pellets. BBC News - Family of swans shot dead in 'senseless' Benenden attackhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-46418054 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 If anyone has any info as to who did this crass, stupid thing, then shop them to the police immediately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 From the number of shot showing in the X-rays they have either been shot from close range or a number of times. This makes me suspicious as to the motives of the perpetrators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 It looks fake to me. I can see what looks to be 1 air rifle pellet in the back of the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid .25 Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 It's ****** like this that give the authorities the excuse they need to introduce more and more legislation to make things harder for everyone that is legally entitled to firearms, if anyone knows anything about this incident turn them in!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW95J Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Does look more like it's been shot with a shotgun then finished off with an airgun. I think it's pretty safe to say that it wasn't a licensed shooter that did it. Implication here is that there's potentially an idiot going about with an unlicensed shotgun. More concerning that the airgun aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 It won't be the first or last time its happened unfortunately, I'm just surprised there isn't a cross bow bolt involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Mice! said: It won't be the first or last time its happened unfortunately, I'm just surprised there isn't a cross bow bolt involved. It went straight through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Must have been shot on dry land for them to retrieve all 7 birds? I see a few news reports saying they were killed with air rifle bullets?? The RSPCA is now calling for a complete ban or tighter regulation of air weapons after receiving 884 calls of air gun attacks on animals across England and Wales in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, old'un said: The RSPCA is now calling for a complete ban or tighter regulation of air weapons after receiving 884 calls of air gun attacks on animals across England and Wales in 2017. The RSPCA would call for a complete ban on breathing if bit thought it would get it positive publicity and more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 There’s 1 air rifle pellet and the rest is lead shot from a shotgun cartridge. Not sure quite who would do that. You wouldn’t trust the RSPCA not to have done it themselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: The RSPCA would call for a complete ban on breathing if bit thought it would get it positive publicity and more money. Yep true, and this incident is the type of thing that helps them drive their point home. The RSPCA can say they were shot with air rifles and Joe public will swallow it hook line and sinker. Edited December 2, 2018 by old'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) The point is that it's already illegal to shoot swans; banning air rifles or indeed shotguns wont make a difference. In the recent past, eastern europeans have been found to have killed swans to eat ( they are just geese after all, especially to anyone not from the UK ) and not knowing the entire story this could be an example of this. For all we know the birds could have been in plastic bags as a means to carry them home, but the perpetrators were disturbed? Who knows? Edited December 2, 2018 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 The RSPCA always seem to blame power cables when swan carcasses are found near the Eastie camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 hours ago, Scully said: The point is that it's already illegal to shoot swans; banning air rifles or indeed shotguns wont make a difference. In the recent past, eastern europeans have been found to have killed swans to eat ( they are just geese after all, especially to anyone not from the UK ) and not knowing the entire story this could be an example of this. For all we know the birds could have been in plastic bags as a means to carry them home, but the perpetrators were disturbed? Who knows? This is similar to my thoughts, I live next to lakes and have witnessed Eastern European types taking Carp by the bin load and several dismembered Swans wings scattered around. When it is reported the answer is along the lines of well there's not a lot we can do. This could be just another "cultural diversity" issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) I am unreliably informed that the swans may have been killed as they are seen as a symbol of Christianity. Edited December 3, 2018 by JDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Blimey, that puts a different perspective on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, JDog said: I am unreliably informed that the swans may have been killed as they are seen as a symbol of Christianity. which ever way you look at it it's still a mindless act, they need punishing don't think it was eastern European as they weren't taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Daily Telegraph report today was so badly written. Airguns where responsible and the authorities believe it was anti Royalty because of their association. You could not make it up. I have written and corrected the Telegraph and told them the report was very badly written by someone with little or no knowledge of the subject. Doubt they will print it but at least someone will read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 There doesn't seem to be one broken or chipped bone on the whole body in the 60 odd pellets that you can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Quotes from the same BBC post! X-rays showed one of the birds found by the bank of a stream in Stepneyford Lane had been "peppered with pellets" Two of the bodies were examined by the RSPCA in Hastings, East Sussex, with X-rays revealing numerous pellet or shot in both bodies. Is it one or two? And how did the others die? 25 minutes ago, 8 shot said: There doesn't seem to be one broken or chipped bone on the whole body in the 60 odd pellets that you can see. Not even on the skull, where the airgun pellet "seemed" to enter??? The RSPCA site where they treat animals etc is very close to me. I wonder if they would let me take a look at them??? 14 hours ago, JDog said: I am unreliably informed that the swans may have been killed as they are seen as a symbol of Christianity. If that is the case, then i'm sure it will soon be hushed up and forgotten about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, silver pigeon69 said: Not even on the skull, where the airgun pellet "seemed" to enter??? The RSPCA site where they treat animals etc is very close to me. I wonder if they would let me take a look at them??? I'm sorry sir, all evidence was burned due to the possibility of the truth getting out, i mean health and safety. Would you like to make a donation sir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 59 minutes ago, 8 shot said: There doesn't seem to be one broken or chipped bone on the whole body in the 60 odd pellets that you can see. But it does look like its neck is broken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) looks like a close range shotgun small shot pattern density compared to what's looks like 22 cheap pellet a broken neck which one killed it and by whom ????? are they even the same bird paper does not refuse ink do we know this to be true no sportsman / licence holder that I know of would shoot a swan could the swan have died of natural causes and be shot by shot and pellet as propaganda to gain charitable donations ???????? Edited December 3, 2018 by Saltings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perazzishot Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 No shards of bone anywhere complete fabrication! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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