ordnance Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, butchdickason said: I read that Danny Dyer has said he thinks she should be brought back and helped ? 😨 It would be better if he went and joined her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Hamster - a thoughtful and accurate summary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Ms Begum, I would class as low threat, whereas a jihadi who has seen combat, or has made IEDs over there, is a high level threat. She may well have been making IEDs, no one know what she was getting up to. Edited February 18, 2019 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, ordnance said: It would be better if he went and joined her. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, butchdickason said: I read that Danny Dyer has said he thinks she should be brought back and helped ? 😨 My opinion of that pillock couldn't get any lower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 16/02/2019 at 22:07, ehb102 said: Beth Aze says it better than I can. Shamina Begum was 15 when she was influenced online through communication by adults. She was Groomed. She was then transported from the UK to Syria by adults. She was Trafficked. She was then married to, and conceived a child by, a 27 year old man. Still 15. She was raped / sexually exploited / sexually abused. She then experienced beheadings, knew of torture, and her two young children died. She was, is, traumatised. The response of the UK media and Government is victim blaming. This young woman, and her unborn child, need help. Like many victims of grooming, exploitation, abuse & trauma, she is defensive, distrustful, trying to hang onto what she was led to believe, and now slightly older than ‘a child’. That doesn’t change what has happened or what she needs. From me: I hear a lot of sympathy on this site for men who were violent at a young age. Shame you can't extend the same sympathy for a young woman who was at worst gullible and malleable. Eloquent but very wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 She isn't sorry and doesn't disown ISIS. She is simply looking after her own interests. Frankly she comes over as arrogant and unrepentant. Dangerous, keep her out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Dekers said: Frankly she comes over as arrogant and unrepentant. Having seen her on TV tonight, that was exactly what I felt. I suspect her lawyer (see other posts) who seems a Britain hating immigrant has coached her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: My opinion of that pillock couldn't get any lower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Dekers said: She isn't sorry and doesn't disown ISIS. She is simply looking after her own interests. Frankly she comes over as arrogant and unrepentant. Dangerous, keep her out! This is my problem. 15 year olds are impressionable, they're idiotic, easily lead and make mistakes that they live to regret. She could have been hopelessly naive and clueless as to any kind of endgame. If she'd been desperately broken, shell shocked, appalled and regret it all bitterly...Had she been thus and prepared to face the consequences, I'd say it'd be better to get her and the child back... BUT she's just so entitled! You can't demand sympathy, or claim to deserve mercy yet show no remorse. I still feel for the baby, but she has no respect for our country and is showing complete disregard for the country to which she wants to return. Can we welcome her home, take the baby into care, then send her back? can you buy Return To Sender labels for terrorists?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: This is my problem. 15 year olds are impressionable, they're idiotic, easily lead and make mistakes that they live to regret. She could have been hopelessly naive and clueless as to any kind of endgame. If she'd been desperately broken, shell shocked, appalled and regret it all bitterly...Had she been thus and prepared to face the consequences, I'd say it'd be better to get her and the child back... BUT she's just so entitled! You can't demand sympathy, or claim to deserve mercy yet show no remorse. I still feel for the baby, but she has no respect for our country and is showing complete disregard for the country to which she wants to return. Can we welcome her home, take the baby into care, then send her back? can you buy Return To Sender labels for terrorists?? She was not impressionable, she wasnt naive and wasnt lead, she went there, she saw and is happy to talk about seeing beheadings and now says Manchester arena was retaliation for bombings in syria, she can stay and rot over there. I couldn't care about her age. She is not a victim she is a terrorist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harry136 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Personally I think the lads from either Poole or Hereford should pay her a visit and just get this episode dealt with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Harry136 said: Personally I think the lads from either Poole or Hereford should pay her a visit and just get this episode dealt with! Ill have a word next time they land Edited February 18, 2019 by strimmer_13 Take location off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Harry136 said: Personally I think the lads from either Poole or Hereford should pay her a visit and just get this episode dealt with! And her brief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Rewulf said: Keeping people safe is not bringing this twisted individual back into the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, ShootingEgg said: Keeping people safe is not bringing this twisted individual back into the country. Special soubry logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) She will be back on UK soil without a doubt, remember the bomber that blew Pan Am 103 out of the sky over Lockerbie ?what did the UK government do ? after he developed cancer he was flown home to Libya to live out his remaining days a free man. 🤮 Edited February 18, 2019 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Special soubry logic. She knows she is out so is seeking all the publicity she can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 One thing is for sure she is not doing her fellow Muslims any favours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Once she is here there will be no turning back. Benefits, a home from the land of milk and money. Keep her out!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Anyone know if her two kids that died were boys or girls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave-G said: Anyone know if her two kids that died were boys or girls? One of each apparently. Personally I think the whole thing is being exploited by the government to get some temporary relief from the press focus on the shambles that is Brexit. Lots of opinions and judgements all over social media around this story but the fact of the matter is she's a British subject and we can't prevent her coming back although we can exercise the full force of the law on her if she does. Personally I'd like to see much more focus around protecting those that went to fight AGAINST ISIS for the likes of YPG from being charged with terror offences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 hours ago, blackbird said: She will be back on UK soil without a doubt, remember the bomber that blew Pan Am 103 out of the sky over Lockerbie ?what did the UK government do ? after he developed cancer he was flown home to Libya to live out his remaining days a free man. 🤮 But that was Jockanese decision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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