Old farrier Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, B725 said: This was taken this morning when out with the dog,at least a third gone to pigeon damage. I couldn't get all the field in the picture Bit late to do anything about it now and the farmers probably more worried about the loss of revenue from the holiday cottages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Scully said: Yes, they can. Wouldn’t it be good if we all just left it to them? As far as I’m aware going out shooting isn’t illegal yet. That time may come, one way or another, but it hasn’t yet. spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, old'un said: Can you explain to me how a question is playing into the hands of WJ? "Pigeon shooters are saying their work isn't essential in any way. So why should we allow this barbaric practice to continue? Because it's a hobby? People only do it because they get a kick out of killing things." Is what WJ et al will say and, going by many comments on this very forum, they'd be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, Demonic69 said: "Pigeon shooters are saying their work isn't essential in any way. So why should we allow this barbaric practice to continue? Because it's a hobby? People only do it because they get a kick out of killing things." Is what WJ et al will say and, going by many comments on this very forum, they'd be right. You have given me an answer that is not relevant to my original post of, "why?" “If there were that many pigeons destroying field after field I wonder why the farmer did not call out some shooters or put gas guns on the fields?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, old'un said: You have given me an answer that is not relevant to my original post of, "why?" “If there were that many pigeons destroying field after field I wonder why the farmer did not call out some shooters or put gas guns on the fields?” Apologies, I did look for an earlier post but missed it. Assumed your response was aimed at the wrong post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, old'un said: You have given me an answer that is not relevant to my original post of, "why?" “If there were that many pigeons destroying field after field I wonder why the farmer did not call out some shooters or put gas guns on the fields?” The picture I posted today has had gas guns out but it didn't deter them from eating the rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 on inspection this morning i felt numbers didn’t warrant being out so returned home so much for those going out being irresponsible lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, B725 said: The picture I posted today has had gas guns out but it didn't deter them from eating the rape. I could suggest the gas guns were in the wrong place then. 20 minutes ago, clangerman said: on inspection this morning i felt numbers didn’t warrant being out so returned home so much for those going out being irresponsible lol I am not as dogmatic as some in saying you should never answer the call for help should one of your farmers ask for it, and with regards the likelihood of you spreading the virus whilst shooting I would imagine that risk to-be very low, lets make this clear, I as much as anyone love my shooting but I do sometimes think some people put to much relevance on just how important they are. I bet that field is blue with pigeons now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, old'un said: I could suggest the gas guns were in the wrong place then. I am not as dogmatic as some in saying you should never answer the call for help should one of your farmers ask for it, and with regards the likelihood of you spreading the virus whilst shooting I would imagine that risk to-be very low, lets make this clear, I as much as anyone love my shooting but I do sometimes think some people put to much relevance on just how important they are. I bet that field is blue with pigeons now. your right definitely not essential to be out unless asked to go and numbers warrant it sat for three hours watching the field monkeys have moved about half a mile away typical one i can’t get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, B725 said: The picture I posted today has had gas guns out but it didn't deter them from eating the rape. hello, i find with gas guns after a few bangs they get immune to the noise or just flit off to another field, my friends farmhas put some gas guns out on a 100 acre field of recent drillings and i am waiting for a update. that field in photo looks just like said on my other post, a fair ££££££ssss loss for the farmer Edited April 9, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, B725 said: The picture I posted today has had gas guns out but it didn't deter them from eating the rape. Just emphasises the stupidity of Wild Justices GL argument! Advocating trying other methods of deterring them, before using lethal control!....what next? Run around the fields waving your arms, screaming like a banshee!......Soon as you leave they will just come back, in ever greater numbers! Shoot them hard proactively, as in the past.......minimises the damage to crops, controls the population..........and despite this proactive control, their population is still increasing! Barmy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 WJ are not interested at the damage they just don't want anyone shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, B725 said: WJ are not interested at the damage they just don't want anyone shooting. I concur.....but this shows the stupidity of the WJ argument..........and NE’s limp response, by caving in, before the first salvo was fired!.......******* pathetic!......mind you having removed responsibility from NE, DEFRA seem to have grown a pair recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Let's hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 20 hours ago, lancer425 said: Spot on. Completely agree the guidelines are very clear and they have been put in place for an unprecedented reason,ONE PERSON WITH COVID 19 WHO PROBABLY IS UNAWARE THAT THEY HAVE IT CAN IN 10 DAYS CAUSE THE INFECTION OF 59000 PEOPLE OF WHICH 12 WILL DIE can anyone who hasn’t been tested guarantee they are clean and guarantee and I mean 100 percent guarantee that they won’t set of this chain of events.NO IS THE ANSWER. I and many on here know what the responsible and moral thing to do is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, holloway said: Completely agree the guidelines are very clear and they have been put in place for an unprecedented reason,ONE PERSON WITH COVID 19 WHO PROBABLY IS UNAWARE THAT THEY HAVE IT CAN IN 10 DAYS CAUSE THE INFECTION OF 59000 PEOPLE OF WHICH 12 WILL DIE can anyone who hasn’t been tested guarantee they are clean and guarantee and I mean 100 percent guarantee that they won’t set of this chain of events.NO IS THE ANSWER. I and many on here know what the responsible and moral thing to do is. Please can you show a source for the infection of 59,000 people? Exactly where have you got that from? I read that normal flu has an infection rate of 1.3 and covid 19 has an infection rate of 2.4. so if you get it you are likely to infect 2.4 other people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 For those who haven’t seen the letter.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8eubea9das89swt/Photo 10-04-2020%2C 09 10 51.jpg?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, southeastpete said: Please can you show a source for the infection of 59,000 people? Exactly where have you got that from? I read that normal flu has an infection rate of 1.3 and covid 19 has an infection rate of 2.4. so if you get it you are likely to infect 2.4 other people.... Data from Intensive care medicine UCL professor Hugh Montgomery based on 1 person infecting 3 others then each of those infect there own 3 and so on like a chain letter, quoted in Daily express .But easy to google how many people can one corona virus patient infect the numbers are scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 19 hours ago, clangerman said: your right definitely not essential to be out unless asked to go and numbers warrant it sat for three hours watching the field monkeys have moved about half a mile away typical one i can’t get on That in some peoples eyes would be classed as a non essential journey , I don't know how the police would react if you told them you were called out to protect the crop from the pigeons that were likely to destroy it, and when you got there you found next to nothing on the field , sat there for three hours and then turned round and came back home ? , maybe that is why I don't get that many calls from the farms I go on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, holloway said: Data from Intensive care medicine UCL professor Hugh Montgomery based on 1 person infecting 3 others then each of those infect there own 3 and so on like a chain letter, quoted in Daily express .But easy to google how many people can one corona virus patient infect the numbers are scary. So those numbers would depend on all those people ignoring social distancing etc. Mine person could infect 3 others, after that it’s up to everyone in the chain and their own decision regarding social distancing. i really struggle to see how going to a field, where you can drive in the farmers gateway and not use a public gate or stile could possibly infect anyone else. the most likely place for infection now, (if you follow social distance and lockdown unlike Manchester) would be from the postman/delivery driver, or the shop/petrol station. take Jerry cans so you make no more visits to the petrol station than otherwise, and going shooting adds 0 extra risk to you or others. Sure, if your permission is in a place where you have to use a gate on a footpath that due to lockdown loads of extra people are using, don’t go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 If we just take the basic official figures to date, The figure to put it into perspective SO FAR the entire population of PAINGTON has this virus . and the entire population of ALNWICK has died as a result. And Today the equivelent to the entire population of LINTON ON OUSE will die who have the virus. We are following the ITALIAN figures fairly close, but about a fortnight behind, so by the 24th of april we will be probably looking at the equivalent of the population of DUNDEE being infected. And he population equivalent of ABERYSTWYTH dead. . Anybody who watched Newsnight in the italian hospitals last night saw all they needed to see. We have been given clear instructions the message is clear, even if not every scenario is not directly addressed. Numbers? Just numbers, But There are 7 Hillsboro disasters death toll going to happen today and tomorrow on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Like i have said! Look after your farmers folks! Help them if asked and you can do it safely! . . Sad day yesterday! another much loved and respected local farmer died (not CV related). These ol born n bred generation of farmers leave a big hole in families and local communities when they go! A farmer who was close to him who farms alone told me, and said he needed to tell and talk to someone! Shocked and choked us both up! Aint all about pulling the trigger! SO! Do what ya can! If you can! . . . . . Stay safe! NB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, lancer425 said: If we just take the basic official figures to date, The figure to put it into perspective SO FAR the entire population of PAINGTON has this virus . and the entire population of ALNWICK has died as a result. And Today the equivelent to the entire population of LINTON ON OUSE will die who have the virus. We are following the ITALIAN figures fairly close, but about a fortnight behind, so by the 24th of april we will be probably looking at the equivalent of the population of DUNDEE being infected. And he population equivalent of ABERYSTWYTH dead. . Anybody who watched Newsnight in the italian hospitals last night saw all they needed to see. We have been given clear instructions the message is clear, even if not every scenario is not directly addressed. Numbers? Just numbers, But There are 7 Hillsboro disasters death toll going to happen today and tomorrow on and on. Yes, it is extremely sad that that amount of people are dying. However, that number will be the same, regardless of a few people going shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, motty said: Yes, it is extremely sad that that amount of people are dying. However, that number will be the same, regardless of a few people going shooting. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Not wishing to get into a bun fight here , but for the guys that can't get their head around the way that this thing spreads ,try to remember that it started with just one person. Whoever said that one person can't change the world , was wrong. 👍. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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