enfieldspares Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) According to reports on his post-mortem ""Mr Sutcliffe had a pacemaker fitted, was almost blind and used a wheelchair." Now he was sentenced to prison and that, and that alone is what the Judge saw fit. Not the hanging, drawing and quartering the rabid might demand. But to spend money and use up resources that could have been used for somebody else who has led a good and blameless life to fit Peter Sutcliffe with a pacemaker? This just isn't right. So now I have heard it all. Truly the lunatics really have taken over the asylum. Edited November 22, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 We're fortunate enough to live in a civilised society , one of the unfortunate side effects , is that a beast like Sutcliffe, gets treated as well as a decent person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, mel b3 said: We're fortunate enough to live in a civilised society , one of the unfortunate side effects , is that a beast like Sutcliffe, gets treated as well as a decent person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 So where do the line start to say who qualifies for one thing and another don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 As above, unfortunately,,,, or is it fortunately 🤔 If you or I were to be incarcerated, for whatever reason, we would also be able to get the same treatment,,,, I think it's called ooman rytes ?! So accept it and get on with your life 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Once imprisoned for whatever reason, authorities and society in general, have a duty of care. It’s what separates us from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkin Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 I've got to agree with everything you said Enfield spare we have been taken over by a load of loooonatics .No money for pension age and law abiding folk but waste money on other such things Try to keep 😁😁😁☺☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 The medical profession are not there to judge . They have to treat everyone the same . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 they get treated better than the pensioners ,they dont have to wait over a year for surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 I hope it was done without anaesthetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, London Best said: I hope it was done without anaesthetic. A great shame it wasn't carried out with far too much anaesthetic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 No, wouldn’t of wanted him to be able to slip out peacefully. The body straps and no anaesthetic option is much more satisfactory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, johnphilip said: The medical profession are not there to judge . They have to treat everyone the same . Not in most parts of the world they don't. They treat you according to your ability to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 In a civilised society the likes of Sutcliffe, Bradley, Hindley the wests and all the other incarcerated **** living in luxury with garenteed health care would be executed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Anyone sentenced to life like him should not get any care apart from pain meds until they expire. Need operation tough, here's a few paracetamol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 As said it’s what separates us from them. We’re not on their level. Their punishment is to live out their existence sat in a small room for the rest of their lives. Not a quick and easy death. I saw a video yesterday, a man in prison said he found out his cell mate was a sex offender, the cell mate tried to justify it, so he jumped down from his bunk, punched him to the ground and within seconds had used a cord to strangle the man to death. Everyone commented on the video (pretty much every single comment) was saying what a hero the bloke was for doing it. How he should be released immediately and his sentence reduced for providing such a service. I couldn’t really believe the view of people. Imagine they let him out and he came and lived next door to you. You wouldn’t want to block his drive way he’d come round and choke you to death without a second thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Apparently the cost was 10 million plus to keep him in *luxury* and has been said could have gone on better causes but that is a humane society for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Lloyd90, it just shows what that if public opinions were on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 52 minutes ago, figgy said: Lloyd90, it just shows what that if public opinions were on it. No, just blinkered..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Vince Green said: Not in most parts of the world they don't. They treat you according to your ability to pay We are talking about the UK here are we not .and our medical profession. They do not judge , and should not asked to be judge . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 22/11/2020 at 06:46, enfieldspares said: Mr Sutcliffe had a pacemaker fitted, was almost blind and used a wheelchair." The real question here , is how this relatively young , fit and healthy individual died of covid ? Couldnt they get him into an intensive care bed and ventilator in time ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 22/11/2020 at 11:34, figgy said: Anyone sentenced to life like him should not get any care apart from pain meds until they expire. Need operation tough, here's a few paracetamol. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 23 hours ago, figgy said: Lloyd90, it just shows what that if public opinions were on it. Yes, it does make you wonder though. If the laws and democracy are supposed to represent the majority view. If we had a vote I think the majority view would be that murderers and sex offenders should be out to death (if not tortured). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 22/11/2020 at 08:57, Scully said: Once imprisoned for whatever reason, authorities and society in general, have a duty of care. It’s what separates us from them. 👍 On 22/11/2020 at 07:21, mel b3 said: We're fortunate enough to live in a civilised society , one of the unfortunate side effects , is that a beast like Sutcliffe, gets treated as well as a decent person. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 22/11/2020 at 08:57, Scully said: Once imprisoned for whatever reason, authorities and society in general, have a duty of care. It’s what separates us from them. Indeed, surprising the amount of energy people expend getting worked up about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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