samboy Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Hi Gang. Is there any legal way of shooting these ?. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Starlings are protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Hello, I would think not, are they not a protected species Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Why should be the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Yes, as above. They are a protected species. In the bad old days they where used for live bird shoots as per live pigeon shoots but thankfully that has long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 They are on the Red list, why on earth even ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, samboy said: Hi Gang. Is there any legal way of shooting these ?. Thanks all. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 You can get a licence from NE but it's usually for just 50. 6 minutes ago, Dougy said: Why should be the question. Health and hygiene is the usual reason when they reach plague proportions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 You can get a license, but, there are ways of solving that without killing them and like other species you have to prove you have tried every which way to solve the problem. Ask me how I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, oowee said: You can get a licence from NE but it's usually for just 50. Health and hygiene is the usual reason when they reach plague proportions. It didn't think they were round for that long, understand they can make a mess when they reach large numbers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 If my brother had his way he would wipe them out in their droves, every time he washes his car it gets divebombed by them. They certainly aren't in short supply round where I live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Sad thing is, in the UK they are becoming more and more rare, whilst in South Africa they are at plague proportions and doing a fair amount of damage. If you go to Natal you can shoot them by the shed load, and be thanked. Seems a bit of a trek mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I know a farm where there are thousands crapping all over the feed and on the cattle can the farmer apply for license Just now, snow white said: I know a farm where there are thousands crapping all over the feed and on the cattle can the farmer apply for license He as tried all the things that should work but nothing deters them he as hawk recordings.laser light flashing.banger rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, snow white said: I know a farm where there are thousands crapping all over the feed and on the cattle can the farmer apply for license He as tried all the things that should work but nothing deters them he as hawk recordings.laser light flashing.banger rope. Nothing to stop him applying, but things might be different in Wales? He might be better getting someone actually flying a hawk or falcon on his land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 You could always try Rome if South Africa is too far. Many years ago I was beating somewhere that I'd never been before in Norfolk. Pointing to a large wood at the top of a hill, I asked a local if there'd been a frost the previous evening. We'll be going there and you'll see - have you brought your gun? - was his reply. I did see, a starling night quarters and some 10 acres of wood totally ruined. At the end of the shoot the beaters were going to surround it and with ammo supplied by the farmer ready for an ambush which was done on a frequency basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I've seen them at plague proportions where I used to shoot, one farmer would lose 1/2 tonne a day he estimated. Tried everything to get them moving, tarps, kites, bangers, gas guns, it's weird I've come over the border there's hardly any here. My old house on a hill I used to get 10,000 plus go over, usually in groups of about 1000, regular as clockwork every afternoon (about hour before dusk) on the way back to roost, and they'd **** like rain on the way over. Id sit out side and let a few shots off, watch them shift direction over to next doors b&b. Thankfully it rained a lot so the **** wouldn't stick too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 12 hours ago, dipper said: Starlings are protected. Gentle reminder maybe?,,,,,,,, All birds are protected unless a specific GL gives specific terms under which they may be dealt with. I remember many winter years ago where in one Staffordshire woodland there were so many thousands that the fire brigade were sent in on frosty nights to douse them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 They are using laser in Rome to move them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51/50 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) It was a sad day in 2005 when these damned birds were removed from the general licences!,myself & a neighbour had to give up feeding the garden birds because of them,nothing else stood a bloody chance!,they'd appear in flocks from nowhere within minutes of putting feed out & they emptied everything!,i watched 2 of them attacking a robin on one occaision,unreal!,nothing but vermin! Edited January 21, 2021 by 51/50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Starlings have declined some 66% since the 'hallowed 70's", and even through locally some roosts are still popular the large countrywide flocks have gone. Like other farmland burds, most of the decline relates to farming practises, in particular for starlings the wide spread use of insecticides which have killed all the worms and grubs they would normally feed on in the turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Back in the 1950s there used to be organised shoots in Hopwas woods near Tamworth, Staffs to kill as many as possible. It was dead mens shoes to try and get on the team. The relatively new plantation back then was being destroyed by the sheer weight of the birds coming in to roost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Back in the 1950s there used to be organised shoots in Hopwas woods near Tamworth, Staffs to kill as many as possible. It was dead mens shoes to try and get on the team. The relatively new plantation back then was being destroyed by the sheer weight of the birds coming in to roost. They could kill a plantation with their droppings and it took a lot of shooting to make them move on. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I like Starlings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Walker570 said: Back in the 1950s there used to be organised shoots in Hopwas woods near Tamworth, Staffs to kill as many as possible. It was dead mens shoes to try and get on the team. The relatively new plantation back then was being destroyed by the sheer weight of the birds coming in to roost. That's the location, must have been the 60;s for the hoses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 yes you can shoot them if your name is Pierre, or Jacques,,Henri etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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