TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Here we go again, our prisons are so full that consideration is being given to not jailing offenders for moderate crimes. From the BBC website; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46847162 As it's already not much of a deterrent what are the alternatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I agree that the correct community sentence would be better at reducing crime than very short prison sentences. If you're caught shoplifting, you should spend a few days sitting in the stocks at your local town centre ,in front of the whole community. If your caught burgling a house , you should be horse whipped in your local town centre, in front of the whole community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Send them to the colonies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, henry d said: Send them to the colonies! How far North Henry? Inverness or further up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: How far North Henry? Inverness or further up? Peterborough is a far enough deterrent don’t you think 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Peterborough is a far enough deterrent don’t you think 🤔 Doesn't that come under "cruel and unusual punishment"? 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, mel b3 said: I agree that the correct community sentence would be better at reducing crime than very short prison sentences. If you're caught shoplifting, you should spend a few days sitting in the stocks at your local town centre ,in front of the whole community. If your caught burgling a house , you should be horse whipped in your local town centre, in front of the whole community. Also, if you are awarded community service but previously would have been sent down then the prison time and not the community service should be taken into account if the event of a re-offend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, CaptainBeaky said: Doesn't that come under "cruel and unusual punishment"? 😒 Would almost certainly effect their human rights..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) So after decades of gradually going easier on offenders you get to the point that you you have so many offenders that you cannot cope with the numbers ! ...and the answer is to be even more lenient !!!....yeah right..... Edited January 12, 2019 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Whatever works and satisfies all parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 In my opinion the surest way to deter the arrogant criminals is to publicly humiliate them? Not send em away for a week or three full board to a holiday camp.........or a few hours spent mowing grass in the company of like minded individuals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason g Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Unfortunately in the NANNY STATE that we all live the criminals seem to have more power that any victim and human rights step in. Crazy world we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) We can build more houses because we have (way) too many people, yet we have way too many criminals and the answer is not to build more prisons, but to effectively let them off. Community service? The crims must be laughing their heads off as they burgle our houses. Edited January 12, 2019 by walshie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len2016 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 i bet i could cure a lot of crime if they shoplift cut off one forfinger if they rob houses three fingers as first ofenders if they re offendone hand offif they go to bigger crime off with one foot ifthey rape or harm a police officer then no mercy the most painfull death in publick and on all tv ch anels so every one can see all the gory bitscrime would cut down over night and a lot of migrants would not want to come here for easy pickingsrant over cheers len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Community service is not what you think it is. They do have people out picking up litter and painting out graffiti but not many. The H&S and the need for heavy supervision is too great and often the participants are so uncooperative and negative about the whole process they just won't do it. They can't trust them to go into peoples houses to help the elderly etc so they struggle to find things for them to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Community service is not what you think it is. They do have people out picking up litter and painting out graffiti but not many. The H&S and the need for heavy supervision is too great and often the participants are so uncooperative and negative about the whole process they just won't do it. They can't trust them to go into peoples houses to help the elderly etc so they struggle to find things for them to do This is a good point it's not as easy to deal with some of this stuff as you might think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Build more prisons and lock them up for longer, also cancel the so called rehabilitation courses and have no time out of cell, which would hugely cut down on staff and officer costs to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) If they are sentenced to 5 years, makes sure they serve 5 years. Instead of letting them out after half the sentence for good behaviour, add another half for bad behaviour. Edited January 12, 2019 by walshie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 There's plenty of room in prisons. Thailand gets 10 or 15 more people in the same space. And their friends/relatives bring them food too. Massive savings..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GingerCat said: There's plenty of room in prisons. Thailand gets 10 or 15 more people in the same space. And their friends/relatives bring them food too. Massive savings..... Now this man is talking sense Edited January 12, 2019 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, walshie said: If they are sentenced to 5 years, makes sure they serve 5 years. Instead of letting them out after half the sentence for good behaviour, add another half for bad behaviour. Thats if they do half, many are let out long before that on tag. A friend of a friend, a well known smuggler and drug dealer, with a record that would make your jaw drop, got 3 years foer a customs evasion offence, he had absconded to S.A. but they managed to extradite him after 5 years, he served 6 months before he was out on tag. If prison is no deterrent, then the threat of retribution for crime is pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 hours ago, matone said: So after decades of gradually going easier on offenders you get to the point that you you have so many offenders that you cannot cope with the numbers ! ...and the answer is to be even more lenient !!!....yeah right..... I’d have to agree with this....makes no sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stour-boy Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just increase their prison sentence initially beyond the minimum 6 ? Months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Would it not have to go through parliament first...just hot air from one MP isn't it..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Or change the 6 months for 100 lashes like they do in Singapore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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