ehb102 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 https://community.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/b/investigations/posts/horror-as-buzzard-is-shot-on-kent-nature-reserve-boundary The press machine has just rolled into action. Apparently the Police are appealing for information, but it's not on the Police website yet. Meanwhile the RSPB are going to make hay of this. I bet the police have whomever it was already. Really, you can't defend this. Give it your best shot though, PW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, ehb102 said: https://community.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/b/investigations/posts/horror-as-buzzard-is-shot-on-kent-nature-reserve-boundary The press machine has just rolled into action. Apparently the Police are appealing for information, but it's not on the Police website yet. Meanwhile the RSPB are going to make hay of this. I bet the police have whomever it was already. Really, you can't defend this. Give it your best shot though, PW! Why would we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 I don’t think anybody on here would try and defend shooting a bird of prey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant1 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) the only way i would defend this is that they have been granted a licence to cull from natural england. otherwise they are idiots. (still dont like it though) Edited November 16, 2020 by ant1 added text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Not that there’s ever a good time for something like this, but it kind of cancels everything Beefy was writing about in the papers the other day. The RSPB will go to town with this, which fortunately for them will overshadow Bothams criticism of them. You couldn’t make it up.....or could you? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 IF this is true.BASC (and all the others) should be shouting louder than the rspb etc.perhaps a joint enquiry/court cost(again,if proven to be true) would be good pr for us🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, wymberley said: Why would we? Exactly. Decrying it would do more good than trying to defend the indefensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 appalling act but anyone present would have called the police immediately with witnesses and a shooter nearby police would have been there in mins with little chance of escape for the culprit is this video all it seems to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 I think we all know that this has happened in the UK previously (bird of prey persecution). It is absolutely wrong. The question is to what extent continues today. Clearly it's a few bad apples, and catching one incident on camera doesn't change that. Hopefully they will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I think almost all shooters would be pretty horrified to see this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Oh good grief, whoever was that STUPID needs to be protected from all those who will now wish to scare the **** out of him! I am intrigued, the witness who filmed the shooting states he heard a crack. The investigation found 4 pellets, three of which were apparently historic. Was it shot with a shotgun or a riffle or an air rifle. Either way it is wrong and I really hope the irresponsible and thoughtless idiot is prosecuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 No excuse for shooting a bird of prey - a crime against nature. But what a complete eejit for doing so next to a reserve...!! Hope he’s arrested by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Sounds from the audio like a shotgun. Looking at the video ... 1 fresh pellet wound seems a bit light given the way it crumpled .... and certainly didn't look like it had 9 days of life left in it. Makes it worse though as it could be potentially more than one incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Hope he gets the book thrown at him , not that itll make much difference i doubt as hes obviously a total idiot anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo22 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just thinking exactly the same does untold damage to us all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Indefensible, but a few things seem a bit odd. Witness heard a "crack" but sound on video definitely shotgun. Maybe just inexperience of guns. Bird in video was hit hard and folded, I'd say very unlikely to be alive yet found alive several days later. Broken wing from 1 pellet and several older pellets in the bird doesn't seem to tally with the video. Of course this may mean that the bird found was another all together and that just makes things worse! But also odd that police were not called/didn't attend as surely anyone would have reported immediately and they'd attend a firearms incident? Just a few things that might need to be questioned. Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 seems a bit suspious to me..............someone "just happened " to be filming it at excactly the right time in the right place on the right day and the right bird...........its almost as if the filmer knew it was going to happen...."by prior arrangement"??? i would need alot more infomation on this before i make any judgement fer christ sake ....you need to be some 120% dyed in the wool muppet to do something like that on the edge of a bird reserve..... film went out very quickly to the media....no wonder the police have yet to make a comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 As Ditchie says it could be a 'set up'. However we should all write in and decry the incident and hope that he criminal is sorted to the full extent of the law. IF the fil taker was that close then not beyond possibilty to follow the shooter and identify. Bird had historic injury makes me wonder if it was a bird released for the job having been shot previously. It is not beyond the ability of extremists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 You are such a cynic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Yes! Shooting of BOP wrong! . . . . Or convenient maybe? Beefy/ GL's/ GB releases/ consultations/ lack of support and funds. Mmmmm. Was only saying other week we haven't had one of these events lately. . . . Police have spoken to a man in connection with it. And??? . . . . But could vid have been stitched together? Not exactly clear and that bird look like it was hit hard for one piece of ("recent") shot. They appear quite calm/clear in audio (wind?) and look quite close to scene. Why as with others has it taken so long to release details/vid/appeal for evidence of a alleged crime that happened on 10th October? A injured bird was found on 19th October with "3 old pellets? in it" and 1 new Is it the same bird? Mmmm. Nine days in wild after evading (what not even feathers) extensive search by "professionals" with a broken wing not able to hunt. Not attacked by predators? A kestrel was having a go before the bird was shot. Then ahh there it is, found close to the incident? Very strange! . . . So badly injured it had to be euthanised by a vet? If so and If it's the same dead bird shown on the tail gate of that truck it looks in remarkable condition? No blood, no damaged/broken/ wet/ dirty feathers or signs it had been struggling on the ground in habitat where it could not be found in Autumn. Amazing! Why is only pic taken/shown on back of a dirty truck after it been in vets and euthanised? Surely secured in evidance bag and frozen? . . . Where was Chris to hold it up to camera like other such good looking corpse's. . . . Not saying it didn't happen as it did! But as ever selective (no doubt fund raising for both) info/heart strings vid released at a time to help push/achieve a weak agenda. We only ever get to see and hear part of the story. Or out come! Just saying. My observations and some of the questions i would be asking NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, eddoakley said: Indefensible, but a few things seem a bit odd. Witness heard a "crack" but sound on video definitely shotgun. Maybe just inexperience of guns. Bird in video was hit hard and folded, I'd say very unlikely to be alive yet found alive several days later. Broken wing from 1 pellet and several older pellets in the bird doesn't seem to tally with the video. Of course this may mean that the bird found was another all together and that just makes things worse! But also odd that police were not called/didn't attend as surely anyone would have reported immediately and they'd attend a firearms incident? Just a few things that might need to be questioned. Edd Yep, Two separate birds, the first one in the video was dead in the air, the second one found with a broken wing, but still alive. More than likely both birds were shot by the same person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Interesting, watching with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, old'un said: Yep, Two separate birds, the first one in the video was dead in the air, the second one found with a broken wing, but still alive. More than likely both birds were shot by the same person. A bird with a wing broken by one pellet CLOSE TO THE BODY will fall like stone as if dead. Edited November 16, 2020 by London Best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 This is absolutely disgraceful, whomever took the shot needs the full force of the law thrown at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, wymberley said: Why would we? A variety of viewpoints. Over on Twitter there's a nice "that's not a buzzard it's a crow" section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Well it might be a crow, I cannot tell on the poor quality small picture! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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