quentyn Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) spotted on twitter "Review of the new guidance of Fire Arm applications. Our team members are conscientious objectors to gun ownership. If you hold a firearms licence or think you may apply for one in the future, we suggest you consider registering at a different medical practice. We charge £200 to complete a Fire Arms application" from http://www.travelsafeedinburgh.com/news.aspx?pr=S70179 i hope that this is a one off and not part of a pattern as some pleases in the UK dont really have much choice in terms of GP https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46912055 This could easily push gun ownership into the hands of those that can afford private GP's Edited January 24, 2019 by quentyn swapped URL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quentyn Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 gah can some kind mod move this to general not equipment ? its late and I am tired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Sounds like they got a bit confused taking the oath... "We are conscientious objectors to firearms ownership, but if you pay us enough we will do it anyway". Looks like they took the Hypocritic Oath instead 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, CaptainBeaky said: Sounds like they got a bit confused taking the oath... "We are conscientious objectors to firearms ownership, but if you pay us enough we will do it anyway". Looks like they took the Hypocritic Oath instead 😡 I'm not sure they know what conscientious objection is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Im feeling discriminated against. Think a law suit would be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) This whole thing is completely stupid. No benefit to anyone at all. The people coming up with this nonsense are proving themselves unfit to manage the system. Edited January 25, 2019 by 39TDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hod Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Lord v said: I'm not sure they know what conscientious objection is.... Clearly! While GPs can object on these grounds (like other issues too, abortion, antibiotics even), they must be able to refer you to a GP who is willing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Unfortunately this is "The Way of the World" and we will see a lot more of this sort of thing in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Am just in the process of changing my practise, interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW95J Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 It's the complete opposite of conscientious objection if they'll actually sign them off for money. I'd argue that if money is the motivating factor, it is considerably less 'moral' than refusing to sign them at all. It just says 'Our principles can be purchased for £200'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 hello, i just renewed mine early and did not need to go back to the GP, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I didn't know doctors "completed firearms applications" anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr gen Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, HW95J said: It's the complete opposite of conscientious objection if they'll actually sign them off for money. I'd argue that if money is the motivating factor, it is considerably less 'moral' than refusing to sign them at all. It just says 'Our principles can be purchased for £200'. +1 I would change practise on the grounds they are Hypocrites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 hours ago, CaptainBeaky said: Sounds like they got a bit confused taking the oath... "We are conscientious objectors to firearms ownership, but if you pay us enough we will do it anyway". Looks like they took the Hypocritic Oath instead 😡 Like that, so used it on the "Contact Us" facility at the bottom of the page and replied in that vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 This topic does "do the rounds"....... i cannot understand what all this is about.............. my last application went as thus........ fill the form in put doctors practice address attatch cheque send off FEO phones you...we have a chinwag police send email to your doc...asking doc to contact the police if you are on any particular type of medication if the police have not heard from the docs within 24 hrs they issue liecence/certificate my last renewal was turned around in 5 days................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 hours ago, CaptainBeaky said: Sounds like they got a bit confused taking the oath... "We are conscientious objectors to firearms ownership, but if you pay us enough we will do it anyway". Looks like they took the Hypocritic Oath instead 😡 Exactly what i thought soon as i read it But if one is on benefits or of pesion age you will get it free in Scotland do you not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I belive there oath starts " shall do no harm " .....realy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 How very noble of them, their convictions can be bought for a price. How weak and shameless can you get, especially when you compare their poor effort to the real courage of true conscientious objectors (not that I necessarily agree with such an attitude, just that it takes real courage to stand firm to your values when all around decry you). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Seek guidance from the GMC maybe> All on line now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Almost bribery in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco89 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 13 hours ago, ditchman said: This topic does "do the rounds"....... i cannot understand what all this is about.............. my last application went as thus........ fill the form in put doctors practice address attatch cheque send off FEO phones you...we have a chinwag police send email to your doc...asking doc to contact the police if you are on any particular type of medication if the police have not heard from the docs within 24 hrs they issue liecence/certificate my last renewal was turned around in 5 days................... As above. As I understand it the police contact the GP with the details you provide, if the GP doesn’t contact police the application proceeds. No need to pay any fees. I know BASC did a press release around this fairly recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rossco89 said: As above. As I understand it the police contact the GP with the details you provide, if the GP doesn’t contact police the application proceeds. No need to pay any fees. I know BASC did a press release around this fairly recently That depends entirely on where u live. In Scotland they WON'T issue ur ticket/renewal without a dr's letter, no matter wot And it seems to be catching on in Eng too Really is scandalous as in my area only 1 pactice so u quite literally don't have any choice, as any other near ones won't accept anyone outwith their catchment areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 13 hours ago, ditchman said: This topic does "do the rounds"....... i cannot understand what all this is about.............. my last application went as thus........ fill the form in put doctors practice address attatch cheque send off FEO phones you...we have a chinwag police send email to your doc...asking doc to contact the police if you are on any particular type of medication if the police have not heard from the docs within 24 hrs they issue liecence/certificate my last renewal was turned around in 5 days................... The issue is that several Police forces have stated without a medical report from the GP they will refuse your application or renewal. BASC and any other organisation have yet to mount any sort of legal challenge against these forces making up the rules as they go along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 and the basc and other orgs, are tacking there time as well.all this is getting out of hand now,to keep our guns its going to cost us one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 13 hours ago, scotslad said: That depends entirely on where u live. In Scotland they WON'T issue ur ticket/renewal without a dr's letter, no matter wot And it seems to be catching on in Eng too Really is scandalous as in my area only 1 pactice so u quite literally don't have any choice, as any other near ones won't accept anyone outwith their catchment areas Were are you based Scotslad , our practice charged me £ 50 . But the money does not go in the doctors pocket . It goes into buying things for the surgery . As does anyother private medical . So not as bad i think . It just the way it is . I am Stranraer area . But we have a little village surgery . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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