samboy Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Hi gang. At the moment i'm shooting a Beretta 687 SP 3 and am happy with it. But i fancy a more upmarket gun. Like a DT 11, Perazzi or whatever takes my fancy on the day. But can a 8 to 10 grand gun Be that much better than my £2000 + SP ?. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, samboy said: Hi gang. At the moment i'm shooting a Beretta 687 SP 3 and am happy with it. But i fancy a more upmarket gun. Like a DT 11, Perazzi or whatever takes my fancy on the day. But can a 8 to 10 grand gun Be that much better than my £2000 + SP ?. Thanks all. Probably not but you miss with so much more style 😂😂 seriously try a few a lot will depend upon how you shoot and how much you shoot if your getting good scores you may gain a bit with the better trigger pulls balance and fit of the more expensive gun if it’s for pigeon shooting and game then probably not going to make much difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Anything is only worth what you are prepared to pay for it. If you can afford it and it makes you happy then go for it. Your opinion is the only one that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Happy is happy mate, as long as it does what you want then you have the right gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 dont buy new..........get a little used top quality gun for a 2nd hand price......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) Had a go with a dt10 and a dt11 the dt11 is the smoothest gun ive ever shot also the most expensive at the moment im shooting a 682 gold e but i now want a dt11 Edited October 12, 2021 by terence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarta Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 I also have a Beretta 687 and enjoy shooting it, in early September I went to the open day at Ian Coley’s and tried the DT 11, it was lovely experience shooting 25 cartridges with such an expensive and beautiful gun. The balance and feel of the gun was a revelation to me as I have never picked up a “new to me” gun and felt so instinctively able to shoot it. I am 75 so my shooting life is drawing to a close so I won’t be buying one but if I had the money and 25 plus years shooting ahead of me it would be the gun I would want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&W FOX Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Doesn't matter if you spend a thousand or ten thousand if it doesn't fit right. Find one that fits first. Try every make going and don't look at the swing tags for a price. If it fits now, it will need adjusting every 5 years so it still does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 I can't shoot a cheap OU after having a Perazzi, the triggers feel like hauling on an anchor. Apparently that's because the Perazzi has leaf springs. Yet my £50 side by side feels just fine - but then it is a hundred years old, they made things differently year ago 🙂 My point is, value is relative and you need to find one where you can appreciate the value. I've heard very rude things said about certain Purdey guns, but they are £££££. If you can tell the difference, or think you can, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Depends what you mean by ‘better’ really. Better as in will it improve your scores? Not necessarily. Will it be better made? Probably. There are oodles of excellent quality sh Perazzi and Berettas out there, so the worlds your cockle really. If you know what fits you, then shop about and try as many as you can before buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townie Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Once the seed is sown, you know you have to buy it. You won't shoot any better, but who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, Townie said: Once the seed is sown, you know you have to buy it. You won't shoot any better, but who cares? 😀This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, ehb102 said: I can't shoot a cheap OU after having a Perazzi, the triggers feel like hauling on an anchor. Apparently that's because the Perazzi has leaf springs. Yet my £50 side by side feels just fine - but then it is a hundred years old, they made things differently year ago 🙂 My point is, value is relative and you need to find one where you can appreciate the value. I've heard very rude things said about certain Purdey guns, but they are £££££. If you can tell the difference, or think you can, why not? Of course the SxS might just have leaf springs too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 hours ago, samboy said: But can a 8 to 10 grand gun Be that much better than my £2000 + SP ?. My thoughts on this type of question are like my thoughts on wine. If I can’t tell the difference between a £10 and a £25 bottle of wine then why waste £15? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka11 Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Only thing I can say is buy the best you can afford I used to have a Beretta 690 but like you I decide I wanted something else and thought about going and buying a bit more expensive gun . So I went out and purchased a new Miroku mk 11 what a fantastic gun could not recommend one of these highly enough worth trying definitely upped my clayscores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny English Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 I went from a grade 5 725 sporter to a dt11. I'd like to say I never regretted it but it took me a long while to get it set up how I wanted it and to learn to shoot it. But now I have it right, it's been the best gun I've ever owned and I have put the most consistent scores in of my shooting career. Everything about then oozes quality and smoothness. They are a very serious piece if kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 A simple but expensive rule is that if you have a gun you shoot well with do not sell it until you have a gun that you shoot even better with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: A simple but expensive rule is that if you have a gun you shoot well with do not sell it until you have a gun that you shoot even better with. That's not an expensive rule, it often is the cheapest as losing ££££'s on a series of guns and spending £££'s on cartridges not hitting as much is often much more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Marka11 said: Only thing I can say is buy the best you can afford I used to have a Beretta 690 but like you I decide I wanted something else and thought about going and buying a bit more expensive gun . So I went out and purchased a new Miroku mk 11 what a fantastic gun could not recommend one of these highly enough worth trying definitely upped my clayscores Did you get 30 or 32 inch barrels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) I went through a stage of buying lot's of guns, I learnt from them what I liked and how I liked a gun to balance. I decided on Perazzi. I was going to do the whole Perazzi factory experience for my 50th (at the time it was about 3 years away so was saving) but in Chris potter I found my exact specification, a suitable stock and forearm was sourced from their spares, it's from 1999, I'm 56 now and still have it. Recently I decided on a new gun, I wanted a Perazzi hi-tech but no longer have the disposable income I used to, so and set about trying several guns I was interested in, blagging at shoots, shops etc BUT none felt as good as the Perazzi so I decided to keep it. The stock is having an adjustable comb raiser fitted to fine tune the fit and decided to have a full custom engraving done. It's a keeper. I know I will have to rebalance the gun as the raiser adds weight to the back. Perazzi are beautiful guns and all are different so try different ones and go for it. Edited October 13, 2021 by retromlc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 17 hours ago, ehb102 said: Apparently that's because the Perazzi has leaf springs. As does your 100 year old sbs! Op shoot what you enjoy is the key here a carp shot will shoot badly with any well fitted gun and great shot will shoot great. The main difference will be in the finer details balance, build quality trigger pulls etc are you good enough to notice the difference only you can answer that. But one thing is for sure if you enjoy what your shooting you’ll shoot it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 18 hours ago, ehb102 said: I can't shoot a cheap OU after having a Perazzi, the triggers feel like hauling on an anchor. Apparently that's because the Perazzi has leaf springs. Yet my £50 side by side feels just fine - but then it is a hundred years old, they made things differently year ago 🙂 My point is, value is relative and you need to find one where you can appreciate the value. I've heard very rude things said about certain Purdey guns, but they are £££££. If you can tell the difference, or think you can, why not? Hello, good post ehb, talking of side by sides there's a free one on the BBS air gun forum, English 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 15 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Of course the SxS might just have leaf springs too! Oh... yeah... That didn't cross my mind. I thought a gun that old worked on pistons and steam and stuff like that. I was also given the impression that leaf springs were a strange and unusual thing that no sensible gun manufacturer would use these days. 3 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, good post ehb, talking of side by sides there's a free one on the BBS air gun forum, English 👍 Thanks for the heads up but I'm not having any more guns until I get rid of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 At the end of the day its just 2 pipes, some cost £50 and others thousands of £,s . Remember, its the nut behind the butt that is the important thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka11 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 I got the 30” barrel don’t think they do a 32” also they are quite straight in stock I’m right handed and my mate is left handed and he shot a 6out of 8 with it straight away only reason is I have seen a dealer put a premium on the l/h version so with it being a straight stock it should suit either handed gun. Mine has just come back from the gunsmith I have had it balanced and stock refinished like a London gun and the wood to metal finish isn’t that good but easy remedy by a good gunsmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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