oldypigeonpopper Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Hello, from what has been reported 1 Party has turned into quite a few parties and gatherings all under Boris and his government lockdown rules, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 I think the latest count is 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 partygate 💣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, ditchman said: partygate 💣 was that to limit the number of people being able to get in??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, ditchman said: partygate 💣 Open stablegate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mice! said: It's easy to sound good though when you don't have to implement anything, I'm not saying some of his ideas aren't good, but could he raise a party? Seriously now bud, who in their right mind would want to inherit the garbage situation we possess at present? We all know, nod nod,wink wink, there will be no evidence to find as the investigators will have been at the parties that never took place too? Edited December 10, 2021 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) I think the past has shown Farage isn't well liked by enough MP's to form a party strong enough to win an election. He done us proud by seeing we are not commanded by Brussels and Co - but there's too many wets seeing him or many of his supporters as too far to the right. Edited December 10, 2021 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Dave-G said: I think the past has shown Farage isn't well liked by enough MP's to form a party strong enough to win an election. He done us proud by seeing we are not commanded by Brussels and Co I agree, but as I have said in the past - Farage doesn't seem to be able to put together a good team. I don't know why - maybe he is hard to work with, maybe he plays his cards too close to his chest, maybe he doesn't trust others? I don't know, but all of his past 'party' efforts have ended up as Farage - and a nameless group of totally forgettable 'also rans'. If you are to be a credible Gov't in waiting, the public will want to know who the other 'top table' players will be - those who would be Home Secretary, Chancellor, Foreign Secretary, Defence Secretary etc. The electorate needs to see a "team" that they can envisage running the country - not one man who delivers a good speech well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 When is a party not a party when its a conservative party or parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I agree, but as I have said in the past - Farage doesn't seem to be able to put together a good team. I don't know why - maybe he is hard to work with, maybe he plays his cards too close to his chest, maybe he doesn't trust others? I don't know, but all of his past 'party' efforts have ended up as Farage - and a nameless group of totally forgettable 'also rans'. If you are to be a credible Gov't in waiting, the public will want to know who the other 'top table' players will be - those who would be Home Secretary, Chancellor, Foreign Secretary, Defence Secretary etc. The electorate needs to see a "team" that they can envisage running the country - not one man who delivers a good speech well. I think that's all part of it, but it stems from the simple problem that he is defined (whether fairly or unfairly) as a one issue politician. So those who are in politics that naturally gravitate to him ARE going to be similarly monomaniacal. But not everything can be looked at through the eyes of Brexit. You need to have an answer to education, housing, defence, the environment, poverty, farming and food production, health, pensions, foreign relations, industry, transport, etc. Then along comes Doulas Carswell, who was interested in developing an answer to education, housing, defence, the environment... and ended up leaving the party because the two couldn't get along and Farage said he 'didn't agree with anything for which the party stood.' UKIP, Brexit Party, Reform UK, whatever the latest badge says, has the same problem: their church simply isn't wide enough to make any kind of substantial inroad. Ironically, they've got exactly the same problem as the Greens, although they might be in an even more daft position. They have someone who's actually passionate about all the above things, is actually in parliament and is a genuinely gifted politician, but can't get anywhere with them because her own party won't let her do any of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: I think that's all part of it, but it stems from the simple problem that he is defined (whether fairly or unfairly) as a one issue politician. So those who are in politics that naturally gravitate to him ARE going to be similarly monomaniacal. But not everything can be looked at through the eyes of Brexit. You need to have an answer to education, housing, defence, the environment, poverty, farming and food production, health, pensions, foreign relations, industry, transport, etc. Then along comes Doulas Carswell, who was interested in developing an answer to education, housing, defence, the environment... and ended up leaving the party because the two couldn't get along and Farage said he 'didn't agree with anything for which the party stood.' UKIP, Brexit Party, Reform UK, whatever the latest badge says, has the same problem: their church simply isn't wide enough to make any kind of substantial inroad. Ironically, they've got exactly the same problem as the Greens, although they might be in an even more daft position. They have someone who's actually passionate about all the above things, is actually in parliament and is a genuinely gifted politician, but can't get anywhere with them because her own party won't let her do any of it! I don't disagree at all re Farage ...... however I don't hold Caroline Lucas in the same esteem that you do, though I agree she can speak well. But that is a different issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 hours ago, dead eye alan said: Open stablegate? That reminds me of the man that was admitted to hospital last night with 20 toy horses inserted into his rectum. He is said to be in a stable condition.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Rim Fire said: When is a party not a party when its a conservative party or parties I would have loved Boris to have just said, well no one invited me if there was a party, and I like a party 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Having slept all day, it is interesting to see his new nickname amongst the party hierarchy seems to be Marie Antoinette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 08/12/2021 at 22:07, TIGHTCHOKE said: Bloody hell, Laura Kuenssberg is revelling in all of this! She has far too much to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 See my choice for leader, Steve Baker has started to become active. Think we will hear more from him in the comming days. I really fancy him for the top job and think he may now see this as the time to make the move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Alf Garnet for PM i say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TRINITY said: See my choice for leader, Steve Baker has started to become active. Think we will hear more from him in the comming days. I really fancy him for the top job and think he may now see this as the time to make the move As much as he might be a decent guy, the Conservatives can't be trusted. They're just a slightly less left Labour party now. Nothing Conservative about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 18 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: As much as he might be a decent guy, the Conservatives can't be trusted. They're just a slightly less left Labour party now. Nothing Conservative about them. Just listen to the guy, his views are very refreshing, you may change your mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, TRINITY said: Just listen to the guy, his views are very refreshing, you may change your mind After the what the tories tried to do with brexit under May, the tories under Boris was in the last chance saloon for me. I'm done with them, this country needs drastic change and that isn't going to happen under the tories and would get worse under labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: and would get worse under labour. See now that I believe. Why anyone with property, savings or a job would want labour back in power is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) There is no one at all in Labour that is electable. You only have to look at starmer and the trivial things that he challenges Boris with. A very poor opposition. Grasping at straws That's why they loose so many elections. Liberals... unelectable lunes. Greens.. barmy. Monster raving loonies...... dark horses in the race 😊😊😊😊 Edited December 12, 2021 by Minky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Boris on TV, all channels, didn't resign though did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Boris on TV, all channels, didn't resign though did he? He won't no one in or should that be at his party is going to push him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, Mice! said: See now that I believe. Why anyone with property, savings or a job would want labour back in power is beyond me. This . I don't have much , but if we has a labour government I'd have even less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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